INTERVIEW WITH ENERTIA'S BASSIST JOE PACIOLLA

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Q:  Tell me about Roman's instrumental project and why an instrumental?

  A:  He has wanted to do one for almost 10 years & some of it wasn't really "enertia sounding", as there is a lot more melodic passages in it.

Q:  Cool.  Will it be available for people to buy or listen to on MP3?

  A:   I know he wants to press it, but money might be a factor in how soon it comes out, as we all put a lot of money into recording the next Enertia CD.  I think he will probably put some of it on MP3.com.

  NB:   MP3 reaches a lot of people.  That's how I found you guys!

  JP:   Great! I am very pro mp3!  It is a great way for people to discover music without spending hard earned money for something that could end up being a drink coaster!

Q:   Enertia came to Texas in Jan. 2002 to Sonic Ranch to work with Neil Kemon.  How did this come about and what did it mean for the band to get to work with him?

  A:   Actually we are coming 4 weeks from today! LOL   The news is a little old on the site!   It is awesome for us as we are all big fans of records he has produced & we are also recording at a killer studio where some of our favorite Cds were recorded!

  NB:   Yeah when I saw that he'd worked with bands like Queensryche you can't go wrong with that!

  JP:   He has done a TON of classic CDs.  He did (IMO) the best Dokken discs (Under Lock & Key / Back For The Attack).   It is a great opportunity  for us, & instead of playing out every weekend & having to pay to do it, we decided it would be a much better way to spend our hard earned cash!

  NB:   I love Dokken!

  JP:   I do too!  And he mixed Judas Priest's Unleashed In The East!!!

  NB:   I got to see JP in Jan.  Awesome show!

  JP:   I haven't seen them since Ripper joined, but am a huge fan!   I even played in a Priest tribute band for about a year as a side project to make some extra $$$.

  NB:   I was close enough to the stage for his sweat to hit me every time he shook his head!!!

  JP:   He gets a bad rap as a lot of people want to see Rob come back, but I think he is really good.  Ripper that is.

  NB:   He is!  I liked what I saw and heard!  I loved Demolition!

  JP:   I liked it, but I wish Glenn Tipton would let Ripper write lyrics.   But anyways, back to recording w/ Neil....

Q:   Will this be the first time you guys have been to Texas?

  A:   Yes.  Except for me stopping in a few airports on layovers.  We are all looking forward to it.  Have you traveled much?  I know TX is such a big state, I think El Paso is on the opposite side from Dallas!

  NB:   Sadly no.  I can count on one hand the number of states I've been too!  It is on the opposite side.  I think it takes about 12 hours to get from Dallas to El Paso.

  JP:   Damn! That is about how long it took us to get from Albany, NY to Chicago when we played there!

Q:   There has really been resurgence, in my opinion, of NWoBHM.  It's like they're being rediscovered all over again.  What, in your opinion, has made bands like Iron Maiden, Saxon, and JP so influential and be able to stand the test of time?  How have they influenced you guys?

  A:  Most of us were old enough to experience the NWoBHM when it first happened, so I can say I am a big fan of all the bands you listed & think I have been influenced by all of them.  I think the thing that has caused resurgence in bands like Maiden & Saxon is that all of those bands wrote great music.

  NB:  I can't wait till Friday night!!  It's gonna be my first time to see Saxon!  I love Killing Ground!!!  Awesome CD!!

  JP:  I saw them in 1986.  Killing Ground was awesome! Do you have the 2 CD versions where they redo the old songs?

  NB:  Yes!  That's the only one to have!

  NB:  Steve Harris can write some killer lyrics, can't he?

  JP:   Steve is one of my biggest influences.

  NB:  I got to see IM on the Ed Hunter Tour in 1999.  What a show!!!

  JP:  You will laugh: I saw them in 1981 opening for JP on the Killers tour!!!!!!

  NB:  They opened for JP??!!

  JP:   2 tours in the US that I know of.   Priest was touring for Point Of Entry when they brought them over for Killers & then the next tour was in support for Screaming For Vengeance & Number Of The Beast.

Q:   I wanna ask you about "Law of Three"(1996) particularly "The Mirror" (my fav Enertia song!).  Tell me about this song and the debut EP.   I would also like to ask about the artwork.  Who did it and what was the concept behind it?

  A:   The Mirror is the first song we wrote as a band as Roman had a few ideas for an instrumental & when we played it for Dave (x gtr player) & Scott, they both had ideas for it.  The cover was sort of a bunch of ideas that we came up with at a graphic arts studio that was in the same place where we recorded the disc.

  NB:   Cool!  I'm really into the artwork!  I guess it's a woman thing!  Lol  I like all the pretty colors! 

  NB:   As a matter of fact I'm listening to Enertia's MP3 station right now!!

  JP:   Awesome! Help us get to 10,000 plays!  Thanks for listening.

  NB:  I'm tryin'!!!

Q:    Tell me about "Momentum"(1997) and "Flashpoint"(1999).  Who produced it and what was the response to the CD  overseas and in the states?

  A:   All of our Cds are self-produced, although Paul Benedetti (owner of the local studio Max Trax), also put a lot of effort into helping them sound great.  Up until now, everything we have ever recorded has been done there; except for an AWFUL experience at a studio we tried when we recorded a song for an Ac/Dc tribute.

  NB:   I think it's better that way don't you?  I mean you know what you put into it to make it a great CD and what better thing to add to that then 'we produced it ourselves'!

  JP:   The guy who mixed at that place had a cute black lab & I swear the disc would have sounded better if the dog mixed it.

Q:   What happened with that?

  A:  The guy just wasn't into our project at all.

  NB:   Well I hope you guys kicked him to the curb!

  JP:   LOL, we're not like that, but looking back, I would never recommend that place to anyone.

  NB:   LOL!  Well whoever said experience was a 'fun' thing! 

  JP:   We did quite well selling the discs overseas & have several distributors buying them from me.

  NB:   Cool!  Sometimes I think that's the only thing keeping bands like yourself going.  If it weren't for the people in other countries I don't know what ya'll would do!

  JP:   As far as self production, I think the thing that appealed to us the most is the fact that we could have gone to Max Trax & done the next CD there & made it sound great, but after 6 years & 3 discs, it was just time to try something new and there are pockets in the US that have been great for us.

  NB:   Well you do have to explore all the different avenues.  That way you know that you're doing everything you can to produce the best CD.

  JP:  Exactly.  Our hometown is really cool, but we only play here a couple times a year so we don't burn people out.

Q:   That's great! 

  A:   Chicago was AWESOME!  We played there in February 2000 with 4 other killer bands.

  NB:   It seems to me that Chicago, NY, and Florida have been the three biggies as far as places to play shows that I've noticed since I've been doing this.

  JP:   It was promoted on the net & there were people that knew every word to all of our songs going nuts right in front of us.

  NB:   That's the key!  You have to have someone willing to go out there and promote for you guys.

  JP:   How is TX as far as the scene goes?  I always thought it seemed like a happening place.

  NB:   Well.... It used to be now it kind of sux!  The clubs and radio play what they’re told and what’s ‘popular’!

  JP:   How far are you from Houston?

  NB:   About 4 hours.  We had no clue that ASKA was in 'our backyard' until we discovered them on MP3.

  JP:   I know that is far to travel to a show, but it seems like the guy in Helstar has a lot of stuff going on there.  I think there is a metal fest going on there sometime in the next few months. 

  Q:  You guys have been on several tribute albums.  1999-Awaken The Demon/Dio, 2000-Southern Death/Pantera, and 2000-For Those About To Rot/AC-DC and a Metallica Tribute.  How did it come about for Enertia to be on these albums and how did it help get exposure for the band?

  A:   The tribute thing started as friends of ours in the band, Division did a couple & told us we should give it a shot.  The label, Dwell Records gave us money to pay for studio costs, so we went in & recorded the Dio & Pantera songs a month before we recorded Flashpoint.  It was great as we got to spend time getting our settings before we went in & recorded our own disc. It saved us a lot of time & money.  We actually sold a lot of discs from those 2 & I felt they came out really well.

Q:   I think tribute albums are great if they're done right, you know?

  A:   I agree!  The Ac/Dc I already told you about - was a shame we didn't go to Max Trax & do it, but it was okay at least we didn't spend our own money recording it.  The Metallica one has been done for a year & Perris Records paid for us to record all the backing tracks (drums, bass, rhythm gtr).  Hopefully it will come out later this year.

Q:    Tell me about the writing/producing/recording process.

  A:  It is a total group effort as far as writing goes.  Roman or me comes in w/ a few ideas & then present them to Jeff & we then work them out.   Scott usually doesn't get involved until the song is complete.  The production thing sort of works well with us as we all end up having a final vision of how we want our music to sound.

  NB:   That's cool.  I think it's great that you can take everyone's input for what it is and use it for the greater good of the band.

  JP:  And most of the time, we agree! LOL

  NB: Very important, to agree!

  JP:   Very important!  We all still get along quite well & that is one of our biggest secrets to lasting as long as we have.

  NB:   You're a brotherhood and you have to be compatible and if you are the band benefits as do everyone around them if you don't well just mark the time cuz they won't last long.

  JP:  Very true.  Exactly.  When it comes to recording, we usually record in our rehearsal room on an 8 track that helps us to be ready for the real recording.

  NB:   Kind of like a practice recording before the real thing?

  JP:   They sound ok, but nothing like we would want the public to hear.  It is for our own benefit.

  NB:   It's good you can do that.

Q:  I would like for you to tell us about the new CD.  CD#4.

  A:  It has been 3 long years in the making....

  NB:   Three years?  That's not normally how long it would take is it?  I'm still learning about all that stuff!

  JP:  For a while, we were trying to put out one a year just not enough money or time to do it like that any more. The new disc has some old elements, but there is some modern sounding & less progressive tunes on there we actually have gone in the studio every year since 1996 though.  Counting the tributes & Romans instrumentals.

Q: Still no name?  I liked "The Unseen".

  A:  No name for it yet.

  NB:   I guess you guys did and would feel the pressure of trying to put out an album every year.  That's gotta be tough on the head and the pocketbook!

  JP:   And then trying to figure out where & how often we should play out adds to that mess!

  NB:   Whew!  What a headache!  Lol If it'll save you guys dealing with all that let it take 3 years! 

  JP:  We had a lot of fun when we were playing out regularly, but money or lack of it makes that difficult.  It will be nice to have a finished product!!!

  NB:   I know!  I don't know how you guys do it!  It has to be for the love of the music and the fans!  Otherwise what would be the point?

  JP:   I always tell Roman I wish I had a time machine, as I would go into the future, buy our CD & then learn it just to save time writing it!  I am totally inspired by the people that like our music & refuse to call them "fans"  I usually consider people that like the band to be our friends.

  NB:   I'm totally inspired by the fact of what you guys do, night after night!  That's what I would like to be known as!  That or a groupie! 

Q:    Tell me about Enertia's film debut!  This must have been exciting.  It was an independent film "These Days" written/directed by Claude King.

  A:   Funny you should mention it I got it in the mail today and was going to watch it tonight for the first time!!!!  It was really cool.

  NB:   Awesome!!  See I did my homework!

  JP:  Yes you did!  I am impressed!!!

  NB:   Thank you!

  JP:  You really are a fan / friend! LOL

  NB:   I take that as a compliment!!  And I hope this interview helps the band out a lot!

  JP:   I enjoy doing it.

  NB:   I'm having a blast!

  JP:  Me too.  You have a cool site & like I said, I like talking to people that really are into music.

Q:  How did it happen that Claude King picked Enertia and how long did the whole process take?

  A:  I was friends with his cousin who I met at a record store that sold our CDs. She passed the discs on to him when he mentioned he needed music for an indy movie & liked several songs.

  NB:  I tell ya when it works it works!  How often does something like that fall into place? That's cool!

  JP:  We actually perform "Real" in the movie, but several other tunes of ours are played in scenes.

Q:  So have you watched it yet?

  A:   I watched it the other night & thought it was great, considering it is an indy project.  We actually got a similar offer back in 1996, but Claude ended up making the movie!

  NB: Sometimes those indy projects can really blow you away!  I think it depends on the mind behind the project.

  JP:  He has to shop it, just like an indy band has to shop their stuff to record labels Claude was really cool & knew what he wanted & got a lot of great people to work w/ him. The camera work & acting was great.

  NB:  That helps too.  I'm a firm believer in "behind every great person there are great people".

  JP:  Totally!  I hope he catches a break with it!

Q:  Tell me about the promo video you guys did for the song "Real".

  A:  We did it at the bar where the scene in the movie was filmed. Claude hired a guy to make the video for us as partial payment for using our music.  It came out great & I really hope to have it online in the next couple months.

  NB:  That would be great!  I can't wait to see it! I know you guys must have had a good time making it!

  JP:  The filming of the movie was also our last time playing with our guitarist, Dave Stafford.  It was a lot of fun, although it was a VERY long day as we played the damn song about 12 times over! First in the movie & then 3 times in the video! I couldn't imagine making a truly professional video, as I would lose my patience.

  NB:  I know you told me about him.  Where did he go?

  JP:  Dave was with us since the beginning, but I guess he didn't share our vision anymore.

  NB: That's a shame but it was better for the band if that was the case.

  JP:  He was playing in another band doing more modern music & at first it was more of a side thing as they were just recording demos & then they started playing out & I didn't have a problem with it until it interfered with us we ran into several conflicts as far as shows booked on the same day & that kind of thing.

 NB: Well that's it.  When you make a commitment that has to be the first priority. If you can't commit don't even get into it.

  JP:  It wasn't easy, but it worked out & we are still friends w/ him & I wish him success. His band is now called Pile Of Heads & they have some tunes up on MP3.com.

  NB: That's great!  Then he's still supportive of Enertia?

  JP: I would say yes.  I support his band too

Q:  Tell me about Animated Insanity.

  A:  That was my original suggestion for a band name for this band, but no one liked it except for me!  When I went to register enertia.com back in 1996, it was taken, so I decided that was my way to use the name.  Someday, if I ever decide to get into band management, it will be come an official company.  Actually, I must give credit, as a guy in a local music store suggested it to me one time & I loved it.

NB:  Okay well on to some 'personal' questions!

  JP:  Ok!

Q:  How long have you been in the music scene?

  A:  I started out as a singer in a garage band back when I was very young, but I have been playing bass since 1987.

Q:  Cool.  Did you ever play around with a guitar before the bass?   Yes, a long time ago! I took lessons when I was very young & liked baseball better back then so I didn't stick w/ it, but I did learn the basics of the instrument & that helped to apply them to bass. I became a bass player as in 1987 I got together with a few friends to start a garage band & we had 3 gtr players & no bass!

 NB:  So, in other words, you're an 'old hat' at the music/band business!

  JP: VERY old! 

Q:   Did you find that playing the bass is easier than the guitar or about the same?

  A:  I said I would try playing bass as I had the least amount of gear & ended up taking a real liking to it. I would say playing bass is the same as playing any other instrument, as it really depends more on how much you put into it….

  NB:  That's cool.  I always wanted to play guitar but I figured the bass would be better because I'm not the most coordinated person!  But I sure love watching other people play the guitar! (Daryl and George of ASKA!!!)  That was a shameless plug I know!

  JP:  That’s great! You should definitely stick to playing!

  NB:  I have to get one first!!!  I thought I would try my hand at what I'm doing now (web page, etc.) then maybe that.

  JP:  The web site is a great place to start!! Do you hand out flyers at shows you go to plug it?

  NB:  I have a print master program and printed up some awesome business cards which I gave away half of them last night.  They have my web site addy and my mp3 site addy and email addy.

  JP:  Great!!! That is a killer way to get exposure! Can you track how many people listen to your mp3 station?

  NB:  I actually met some people at the show last night that had been to my site, so that felt pretty good.  Anyway, you’re the center of attention here!  Back to the interview, you!

Q:  What are your thoughts on Corporate Radio?

  A:  For the most part, I don't have any kind of hated for it, but locally we have a new station that is sort of like how Z Rock used to be before Nirvana!

  NB: That's cool.  We used to have a Z-Rock here then it became a Tejano station!  Now we have 93.3 The Bone (They hosted last night's show) they're pretty cool.  I actually heard a Scorpion's song on there the other day and it wasn't at midnight either!

  JP:  College radio used to be really cool, but a lot of stations have changed their format so we now have more hip-hop kinda stuff! That station I mentioned here plays stuff like Scorpions, Priest, Dokken, etc all the time.

Q: Have you ever heard the term "false metal"?  If you have what are your thoughts?

  A:  I do like some modern stuff I try to be open minded, but I like hearing "classics" from my younger years too.  As far as “false metal” I think that term fits a lot of bands you hear on the radio in 2002 much more than it did to Poison & bands like that before.

  NB:  Me too!  I'm a huge Doors fan.  Oh absolutely.  I would never commit such sacrilege as to mention Poison in the same sentence as 'false metal'!!!

  JP:  The term “metal” is definitely used very loosely these days by a lot of bands that wanted no part of it back 5 years ago.

  NB:  I'm so glad to hear you say that!  I agree.

  JP:  I am a heavy metal bass player that likes other styles of music, but I always stress the fact that I play metal first & foremost.

  NB:  Well I'm a firm believer in giving everyone a fair shot.  Even if you're not into their kind of music they still go out there and try hard and they deserve some consideration.  Don't shut the door, you might be missing out on something good!

Q:  What, in your opinion, can we do to support "our" metal music?  It belongs to all of us who love it!

  A:  First of all, go out & buy local bands music!  Going to shows helps too.  Spread the word to people too, (which you are doing a great job!)

  NB:  Yes it does!  I've seen that work!  Thank you!  Actually last night I was telling people about Enertia, Desecrator, and Premonition.

  JP:  I actually hooked up with a local guy that loves our style of music that never heard us before as he thought we were a mall-metal! LOL I've heard of Premonition, but where is Desecrator from?

  NB:  They're from Jamestown, New York. Yeah my friend Tattoo Frank, from Premonition, sent me a badass shirt that I wore last night. On the back it says "No Rap Here!  Only True Heavy Metal!"  Got lots of comments on it!

  JP:  We need to make new shirts & I am going to shortly after our return from TX.

  NB:  Cool!  I'll buy one from ya!!

  JP:  I will keep you posted when I get them done.

  NB:  For the record, cuz I wanna make sure I get it right, when are you guys coming to TX?

  JP:  We arrive Tuesday, May 7^th.  I have the plane tickets right in front of me.

  NB:  Cool!  Hopefully by then it won't be 115 degrees in the shade!! 

  JP:  I hope not, but I won't mind it either. I am a fan of warm weather.

  NB:  I would love to have more definite seasons.  It would be nice!

Q:   Have you guys ever heard Enertia on the radio?  If you did, when, where, and how did it make you guys feel?

  A:  Actually, what I consider to be a big highlight for us is when WSOU in NJ (broadcasted into NYC & boasted a listen ship of 100,000+), the once mighty college station that played metal 24-7, played us every 4 hours for a week, as we were a featured unsigned artist.... & we were driving into NYC & heard our song come on right after a Pantera tune.

  NB: OMG!  That's too cool!  Were you guys like "dude that's our song!!!"?

  JP: I was VERY psyched! A lot of friends from NYC & NJ called me & told me that they would hear us that week.  We just turned up the volume and sort of felt like we achieved something, seeing the NY skyline & hearing our music on the radio!

  NB:  That's what it's all about!

Q:  I know we both love Judas Priest.  Tell me about Bloodstone:  Judas Priest Tribute (2001).

  A:  Bloodstone was a side project I did, as they needed a bass player to fill in. I had a good time & actually made some money playing~!

Q:  Who would be your choice line-up for the ultimate Metal Fest?

  A:  Well, they aren't in order, but I'd love to see a Wrathchild America reunion.  Also some of my other favorite bands: Freak Kitchen from Sweden.  Thin Lizzy is another big favorite of mine too, but no chance of a true reunion.  Lately too, I have been listening to a lot of melodic stuff like Pretty Maids, Humanimal & some others too.  I would be very happy just seeing the three bands I mentioned!

Q:  Tell me about the 2000 Chicago Powerfest.  Something happened to you in that show.  What was it?

  A:  I tend to jump around quite a bit at shows & at this one, the crowd was nuts too, so I remember banging my head harder than I ever did & blew out a blood vessel in the back of my left eye.

  NB:  Damn!  How long did it take you to heal from that one?

  JP:  I actually had to have surgery to totally clear it up.  BUT, the issues I had/have w/ my eyes originally stems from being diabetic for 25+ years.  I will tell you more about it next time, but I had a kidney / pancreas transplant 5 years ago, so I'm no longer diabetic.

  NB:  Okay, are you taking care of yourself???

  JP:  Yes. Totally.

  NB:  I guess you have a different outlook on life now?

  JP:  VERY!

Q:  I noticed one of your favorite TV shows is "The Sopranos"!  You've got brownie points with me now!  What about the three Godfather's?

  A:  I like them too, although I thought the 3^rd one was a little bit slow!

  NB:  I have the first season of Sopranos on DVD and the Godfather collection on DVD!

Q:  Tell me about your CD collection.  I understand that this is one of your hobbies and that you have 1700+CD's!  Where do you put them all?!

  A:  Actually, it is now up to 2100+!  I have them at my office in four racks they take up an entire wall.  Music is a major part of my life, but you already knew that!  I also have about 2500 bootleg video tapes of most hard rock /metal bands you can think of too.

  NB:  Like CD's do ya?!

  JP:  I don't have just metal stuff! I listen to a lot of different stuff, from classics, like The Eagles, Elton John & The Bee gees to death metal.  I guess I attribute my varied taste in music to my many moods! LOL

Q:  Cool!  Do you have any Doors?

  A:  Actually, no!

Q:  Janis Joplin, Jimmi Hendrix??

  A:  WHAT??????? OMG, NO!!!  We have all The Doors!

  JP:  I would like to get a Hendrix greatest hits package.  I got severely burned out on The Doors when I was in high school! I used to hear their music at a lot of parties & couldn't relate to the people that listened to them back then....  I don't mind them now, but back in high school, I was a one trick pony & metal was the ONLY thing I listened to!  I try to keep a very open mind & listen to all kinds of music these days...

Q: What's the best concert/show that you have ever been to?

  A:  My favorite concert ever would be when I saw Wrathchild America & Pantera back in 1991 on the "Cowboys & Idiots" tour.  There are a million other gigs I loved, but that one truly stands out in my mind. I would love to see Freak Kitchen & hope I get the chance someday if they ever make it to America…..

Q:  Cool!  Did you get to meet them afterwards or hang out with them?

  A:  Actually, a cover band I was in got to open for Wrathchild back then & the bass player, Brad Divens borrowed my wireless as his didn't work that night.... I was so blown away by that! he gave me a shirt for letting him use it & that fucking thing got stolen!

  NB:  I'm gonna send you ASKA's Avenger.  It's a metal masterpiece!

  JP:  I have it.

  NB:  Do you have Nine Tongues?

  JP:   Nine Tongues is my favorite disc by them.  I liked Avenger, but I listened to NT a LOT when I got it.

  NB:  Well I don't have to worry about converting you!!!

  JP:  I think I told you, I know all the damn words to it!

  NB:  My fav song on NT is Killashandra.

Q:  I know the answer to this one but what made you start playing the bass? Feel free to quiz me! 

  A:  Seeing Wrathchild America back in 1987 really moved me. They were maniacs & great players & I totally latched onto their sound.  They just looked like they were having such a good time playing, that I was like I want to do that too!

Q:    Have you ever met Steve Harris?

  A:  No. He is one of the few influences of mine that I haven't. I would like to though. Not sure what I'd say to him.....

Q:  You're a lefty!  Do you get many comments about this?  Who are some other left- handed bass players you know of?

  A:  Actually, a good friend of mine that lives in Ohio used to go to shows & always made sure he gave our discs to different guys & he actually got Momentum to Steve Harris & Rod Smallwood!  Doug Pinnick from King's X is the first lefty that comes to mind

Q:  I noticed in the guest book you've had people from Germany, Sweden, Mexico, and Canada sign it and comment on your music.  How does it feel knowing you're reaching people all over the globe?

  A:  It amazes me & that is what is so amazing to me about the net, as it exposes a local band to an international audience.

Q:  Where would you say is the biggest fan base for Enertia?

  A:  It makes my day when people tell me they really dig what we do.  Probably in our hometown, but I would say that we did really well out in Chicago. I've always sold a lot of discs in the Midwest.  We sold more discs at that show than we did at our CD release party for Flashpoint here!!!

  JP:  I want to say thanks for putting so much time into do this!

NB:  I usually end the interviews with you saying whatever you would like, so the floor is yours!

  JP:  I really enjoyed the interview & greatly appreciate the time you put into putting it together!

 NB:  Your welcome and I hope it helps the band out!  Well I definitely wanna keep in touch with you and the band and will be following Enertia very closely!

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